What, what made you guys decide on Mudbox? They're the only printer out there that can actually print in a time that's faster than having framers do it. We're we are a construction company. We do build homes, and we've seen what framers can do. And it's a matter of days to get a building built and framed up and that is the time to be.
Time is money. So if I go with another machine, if I go with Buffalo or Cobod, where I'm looking at weeks of print time to get a frame up, I've not sped up things. I'm spending more money on getting a home built. I'm not doing it faster, cheaper, better. Okay.
What about assembly? Assembly? It's, another time critical issue. I need to be able to put up the machine very quickly. Hours, not days, not weeks, but minutes and seconds count, because that is going against my time of how long does it take me to build this?
How if I can get a machine up in an hour, have it print a home in a day, pair it down in an hour, I've got one day of framing a house up compared to a week of having framers on the project compared to weeks of setting up a a different brand printer. What about moving your printer when you're done? Gotta move it 50 feet, print again. What's what's the process here? You know, we've got the wheel system available to us.
We can then lift up a corner of the truss port, put the wheels underneath it, roll it across the job site on sheets of plywood if that's gonna be, a very short distance. If we've got a longer distance, it's just stage trussing. We can take this thing apart very quickly, collapse it into a cart, put it back on a trailer if need be, ship it to where we need to be done next. What size printer did you guys buy? We got the 50 by 75 printer.
You building a city? Shit. You're gonna try to. It's gonna try to. Our, our mentality is that, you know, we know that as you scale up the printer, the parts have to be scaled up, and we don't ever wanna have a bottleneck on our printer.
And so whether we're planting a flower pot, a tiny home or stepping up even into something bigger we don't ever want to go no you know what actually the motors aren't big enough for us we have to stop that flower pot well with having the largest machine available to us that we can transport and feasibly move, now we've got the biggest of every part. We can go, we don't have these bottlenecks. We're not restricted by the perimeter on what we wanna do. We're restricted by our talent, and that's a correctable aspect. Okay.
What was your deciding factor on the 50? The 50, that's the gantry side of things, and that gets into tearing that down and getting it into a trailer, transporting it. That's really the restriction on that size for us. We don't want to involve semi trailers. We don't want to have these monstrous things that really make it expensive and prohibitive to move this machine around.
We want it to be able to be done by a small crew. So with that gantry being the 50 foot aspect of it, we can get that on top of a trailer in a single unit or just break it into half and have it just two pieces that go into a smaller trailer. Who introduced you to this? This would have come directly down from, my boss on high, Dustin. No.
No. No. No. Who introduced you to concrete printing? Concrete printing?
You know, I've kind of been familiar with the concept for years now. I don't recall who the company I saw doing it was. But, you know, back when three d printing started picking up about ten years ago just with the plastic printers, you know, everybody immediately started talking about, well, where can this go? What's the potential of this? Can it be done with concrete?
Can it be can we build larger, more expensive tools? Can we build houses with it? And then a couple of guys started experimenting with it, playing concrete printers. And at they were just toys. They're they weren't defective in it.
And I don't recall when I encountered, any of the major contenders that are actually having successful prints today, such as Cobot, Mudbox, or Buffalo. K. Apis, Icon, Squared. I don't wanna leave anybody out. I hurt someone's feelings.
Yeah. But, what are challenges you're facing in construction that even led you to looking for alternative building methods? You know, especially with the pandemic we've had this past year, material shortages are an incredible bottleneck on everything. I can't tell you how many project delays I've had just due to material shortages. And a q one that, you know, absolutely skyrocketed in price was lumber price.
If I can get framing out of the picture, reduce the amount of lumber I'm using now I don't not that I'm aware of, I don't think I ever had a concrete shortage. I've had labor shortages, and I've had lumber shortages. I've also had miscellaneous metal of this bucking out. We'll solve that problem later, but if I can reduce the labor, if I can reduce the lumber, those are two of these bottlenecks I can get out of my way. Hey, dad.
It's Courtney. Business owner coming down here to take a look at, potential for the building ops with. So I'm Joe Barnhart. This is Dan Christians Christensen, my partner, and we are here for the basically, the two day training. So we're just trying to learn more about, basically, my thoughts that we haven't learned on the Internet.
So I'm Mike, One of two Mikes in the company. We're with TX three d Construction based out of Texas, and, yeah, do real estate. Okay. I'm Mike Garza, out of San Antonio market with TX three d Construction. I'm the on the sales side, sales and marketing side.
Lair Line three d. And why are you here? To learn how to print houses. I'm here to buy concrete. I already know how to build houses.
I said print. I said build. It's definitely way better than Zoom meetings. That's for sure. You know, coming to the facility, I mean, it's, you know, it's state of the art.
It's fantastic. You know, you see, the machines being built. You know, you got, you know, the casita over here. You got, the different prints that fix the different textures, the different stamps, you know, all very impressive. And, yeah, just meeting with James, I mean, doing doing a Zoom, it just it doesn't do it justice.
Yeah. I think I think it's it just provides clarity. I mean, you get a a kind of list of, you know, 100 different top you know, areas that you can touch with the technology, but I don't think that you really see it being in use. And that's what was really helpful from the the videos that we went over today because you can really okay. You can really conceptualize it once you really start to see that implemented.
So I really kind of cemented everything on the learn. Yeah. You're actually able to touch it and see it and and just actually know that it it can be done. You know, so many you could see so many videos and it just showed you enough to keep you intrigued. And now that I can see it done, I can see the other things it does.
It's just, it just opened up so many opportunities. So Well, I've already spent, since mid October trying to hit Yeah. You're well versed. And I would say I got probably 60% of the information I was looking for sitting here together for you if I got before that. Mhmm.
Currently, something in that area. Yep. I mean, I feel like most of them. The the big thing now is we thought we thought coming here that we were going to want a certain type of printer, a certain size to do a certain thing. And now after looking at all the different things that are possible, now we're kind of questioning that.
We're like, okay. Maybe we need a different size as we start to focus in what our niche is. I feel like for everybody, it's gonna be a different niche. Yeah. Pretty much.
I mean, like, I told James, like, at this point, like, we just need to get hands on the machine. And whatever questions we're gonna have about the operations, we we don't know those questions until we actually start working with the machine. Everything else, I think, has been pretty thoroughly covered. I'd say so more. Yeah.
I feel like we're leaving with a lot more information than I thought we were gonna come and leave it here with a lot more confidence. thing was, understanding of what you guys are selling. And so that was, one of the biggest points you can get out of it. The thing is the understanding of the algorithm of whether you guys have written a deal with the money that you got, that my boss looks at as representative look at us from the standpoint of we want to help you win, not come buy a printer from us, hope it works. Long voyage.
I think the thing is the more the movies that you watch online, the more you start to realize that it's not really a competition per se. It's not like you're you're not, oh, I'm gonna choose this printer or this printer, and I'm gonna get similar outcomes. I mean, I think the more and I think today solidified that. I think whenever you start to watch movies that are out there available online, you can even see that. But then whenever you see it in person, and then you see what the full competition looks like, I really think it's interesting.
It really solidified every step. So now even more than at the beginning of the day, you know, it's not some sort of, like, marketing tactics. It's just showing photographs of what's being done. So that's the best part of it. I yeah.
I mean, that is the god's honest truth. Like, like like I said, I mean, he's the he's the pilot. He's he's the we call him the the rain man of our company. But, yeah, I mean, he we've vetted, like, he vetted y'all and then, through meeting y'all, obviously, y'all require us to vet everybody else. And, just going through that process, obviously, I mean, it's a no brainer.
Y'all are, you know, hands above everybody else, with the, you know, with the technology and as far as, the machine actually being, you know, user friendly or whatnot. Is this like a whole package? Hands down. Just thought there are couple videos that are available when we start looking at three d grand houses, and one looks like the ones you guys have down here, and the other ones look like the sun's been sitting on a Crayola brand creation and the wax is melting. That's a good reason to have this way.
I wish I could say price, but price was almost one of the deterrents. And because and maybe not I see your invoice. It maybe doesn't Right? Yeah. And maybe not deterrent effect.
Skepticism like, okay. If it's cheaper, it must be cheaper. Yeah. And half is cheap. You know?
So why? And if, and usually that means inferior in some way. But again, you start talking about German made versus American made. And I mean, you can you can overpay for hype. So, I like the fact that we're not paying for hype because that's not gonna get us anywhere where we need to be in the next few months.
I think we're gonna do zero for our situation.
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